Editor,
First, the SAVE Act is a solution for a nonproblem. Every study shows that voter fraud of all kinds, including noncitizens attempting to vote, occurs at a microscopic rate: less than 0.003% or lower of all votes cast. This includes the comprehensive study by the conservative, Project 25 Heritage Foundation. Voter fraud is not “widespread,” despite what some pundits tell everyone.
Second, the SAVE Act — H.R.22 and S.128 — would impose undue burdens on citizens. There would be fees involved in a citizen’s obtaining the required documentation — i.e., a poll tax, which is illegal under federal law. This act does not prohibit the federal or state governments from charging fees to persons to verify citizenship; it only prohibits the federal government from charging a fee to states that request information.
Even if a person wants to register to vote online or by mail with the appropriate documentation, the SAVE Act requires that person present the documentation in person at a designated election office. Tens of millions of rural citizens could have to travel hours to the nearest election office; even suburban and city citizens might have long travel times depending on traffic or public transit.
Voting is a civil right. It is the duty of government to protect any civil right. The government should itself make every effort to ensure that every citizen has the appropriate documentation to register to vote, at no cost or undue bureaucratic burden to the citizen.
Mike Forster
Palo Alto
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(13) comments
Republicans have a steadily growing reason to fear the voters!
Jorg we do fear illegal voters and the uninformed ignorant democrat sheep who are allowed to vote. If I use the writers logic that very few people who should not vote actually vote and that it doesn’t matter, then can I apply the same logic to the following? if your wife was killed by an illegal voter, but since she was the only person killed that year, then it’s not a big deal? Of course not and you shouldn’t trivialize things. One of my favorite cartoons said it best.
Two men talking.
A. Shouldn’t voters have to pass an intelligence test?
B. You don’t have to be intelligent to vote
A. What if there are more stupid people than intelligent people
B. Then the Democrat wins.
CA is Burning: Oh, yes, a party headed by someone so uneducated that he didn’t even understand he was given a cognitive test, then bragging publicly that the testers were so impressed by him passing it! Then again, what can we expect from such a laughingstock around the world? Have to credit USC’s Film School for rejecting him, despite what his dad offered as bribe to get him in.
Why don't you make relevant points that might convince people who are reading your hate-filled opinions to change sides? Isn't that the point of having an opinion? To convince others and change minds? Your taking points that George Soros and AOC provided you will not change the minds of people who are educated and open minded.
Not at all, CA Burning! I know too well that ”the other side” is beyond learning and understanding, totally stuck in their uneducated opinion, just as Trump himself, - shamefully uneducated.
Compared to Trump’s steady decline, have you ever wondered why President Obama enjoyed such a comfortable majority of voters, both directly and indirectly via EC? Anything to do with intelligence, education, honesty or accomplishments perhaps? No? And why do you think Trump puts so many incompetent people in important positions? Perhaps he has to dig so deep into the mud to find someone who doesn’t outshine himself, or what else could it be?
Mike - how did we manage to elect presidents like Lincoln and Roosevelt? All before the obstacles that you dream up. You make it sound as if these millions never fly, have a bank account, are not on welfare, or attend business in secured buildings. All of these venues require picture identification. Don't be a sap for the Dem's non-existent problems because they want as many votes as possible, fraudulent or not.
Here we go again…with Mike Forster repeating easily debunked Democrat talking points regarding the SAVE Act. If anything, the SAVE Act increases the confidence that qualified voters will vote, knowing their votes won’t be nullified by folks not allowed to vote. We all know obtaining a birth certificate or a married name change, especially online, is quick and easy and folks can receive their documents within a month, or less. In person, they can receive documents in a day or two. And Mr. Forster states voter fraud is exceedingly rare. What are the numbers and why is Mr. Forster okay with any amount of fraud?
The only people who will be barred from voting will be invaders to our country and people committing fraud. Of course, people who can’t be bothered to obtain valid ID likely don’t care enough to vote... The biggest reason folks should want the SAVE Act to pass is that Democrats don’t like the Act. Remember, Democrats in NYC wanted what, four forms of ID to be paid for shoveling snow. And didn’t Democrats in Connecticut pass a law that requires photo ID to recycle aluminum cans? And these Democrats don’t think folks need ID to vote? Democrat hypocrisy is off the charts. And why the SAVE Act is needed. Thank you for your attention to this matter. BTW, check out O’Keefe Media Group’s undercover investigation into massive election fraud on LA’s Skid Row. More reasons for the SAVE Act to pass.
You are so right Mr. Forster. The Greed Over Principles party is grasping at straws and panicking over the fact that the rotting corpse in the Oval Office is alienating every freedom minded individual here and abroad with deranged midnight rage tweeting, prices soaring, health care shredded, nonsensical wars started and lives lost, and the list goes on. The Snoring Felon actually said in so many words that he could care less about the problems of the American people. I am so glad to see the "arguments" of the bots shown up as more and more ridiculous. The real SAVE Act will be a blue wave at the midterms.
Hey SMpool, no need to worry. Snoring and treasonous (and shaking hands with invisible people) Biden is no longer in office. You should take heart that our (yes, our) great President Trump is Making America Great Again, again. Have a Trump-tastic day! BTW, how about Vance deferring $1.3 billion in Medicaid reimbursements to California? It appears Vance is polishing his credentials in the event Trump doesn’t run in 2028.
Rotting corpse, your opinion is 17 months late. Trump had more open news conferences in his first month than Biden had in four years. Biden was propped up with embalming fluids for the last three years of his presidency, fact. Yes facts matter, requiring an ID to recycle, to attend Kamala's debate, to buy beer at Safeway etc. are all ridiculous arguments as to why it's logical to require an ID to vote.
A. Buying beer, here's my ID
B. Voting, ID? Are you crazy, I'm an incompetent boob that can't provide an ID, the democrat party told me so. Where I can put my beer while I vote?
I agree with Mr. Forster. Half of Americans do not have a passport and many cannot locate their birth certificates easily. Many women have names that do not match their birth certificates, https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/new-save-act-bills-would-still-block-millions-americans-voting. A similar law was passed in Kansas and later struck down by Federal courts after 31,000 citizens were not able to vote. https://apnews.com/article/kansas-noncitizen-voting-proof-of-citizenship-50d56a0b8d1f0fde15480aab3db67f4f?utm_source=copy&utm_medium=share. Implementation of the act, if passed, is still murky and fraught with issues. It is not as easy as boarding a plane. A Real ID is generally not recognized as proof of citizenship. Verification would be by local officials at the county level with an unknown level of federal guidance and support and funding. If worse comes to worse, and a citizen cannot produce their paperwork, it is pointed out that a signed, sworn affidavit would be accepted. However, if it comes down to it, would an elected county official risk losing their position and facing jail time to sign off on the affidavit no matter how small the chance of fraud? The bill itself, by implying it is needed to fight fraud, is voter suppression in itself. Further, it could sow doubts in elections if voters know ten percent of eligible voters could possibly have been prevented to vote, https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/kansas-proof-of-citizenship-effect-on-voter-registration-administrator-lessons-360f77.
Here we go again with a regurgitation of Democrat talking points… Hey ClashFan, we’ve gone over your alleged lack of access to documents in the past. Type in “how fast can I get a copy of birth certificate or marriage certificate” and results will tell you how quickly and what steps to take. If one is unable to go, in-person, to retrieve documents, one can easily access the internet to obtain documents to be delivered. Almost 100% of Americans have access to broadband and for those who don’t they can find someone that does. Besides, didn’t one need a birth certificate to get a driver’s license? Pass the SAVE America Act. Personally, I’d say pass the MEGA Act - a better piece of legislation. BTW, why would you be okay with any percentage of voter fraud? Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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