Mr. Harry Moody decries “Mr. Trump’s” war on Iran claiming it is costing money that could go for his Medicare. I wonder if Mr. Moody, in the last four years, ever wrote a letter (he’s a subscriber) to the SMDJ decrying the $200 billion the Biden administration spent on a war in Ukraine, a war that still rages on. I wonder if Mr. Moody ever wrote a letter decrying the billions of dollars of his Medicare entitlement Joe Biden gifted in weapons to the Taliban (who later sold much of it to terrorists.)
Yet, on the other hand, the war on Iran, as letter writer Joe Guttenbeil points out, is a war against a regime that treats women as property, and gay people as execution bait. It is a regime, as it promises “Death to America,” has been razor close to manufacturing nuclear weapons and developing missiles that could reach America soil to fulfill that promise.
Yes, I understand Mr. Moody’s fears about his Medicare. I too, am a senior on Medicare.
But I also fear for the lives of Mr. Moody’s children and grandchildren. I, for one, am grateful we are waging a war to destroy this murderous regime. Unlike the billions to Ukraine and billions to the Taliban, it is money well-spent.
Well said, Mr. Abramson. When folks whose emotions cloud their judgment and common sense are easily exposed as being hypocritical, it is in our best interests to ignore their outbursts. The best we can do is to guide them to the fountain of truth and hope they drink from it.
Scott, the money from the war on Iran is well spent? How lame. Tell us any objective, if there was one, was met. Regime change? - no. Iranian people rising up to take over their government? No and after we killed their civilians, decidedly not. Less nuclear capacity than before the strikes? - not well determined but likely not. Strait of Hormuz open? - no, but it was open prior to his war. Plus, Trump released the sanctions on Russia's oil supply, so his buddy Putin comes out a winner as well.
Obama and John Kerry has a written agreement from Iran whereby Iran agreed to not build any nuclear bombs. Trump tore up that agreement - probably because he had "a concept of a plan". This was a great diplomatic victory and agreement Trump tore up because it was done by Obana.
Bottom line: there is no way this war on Iran was worth any money we spent and are spending on it. This war is an abject failure, just like his presidency.
OK Rel - why not wait until we see the results in a few weeks. Your assessment is straight from the Iranian News Agency, so let's rely for a while on news that is provided by other sources. The Iranian regime killed up to 30,000 of their own citizens prior to our involvement, a much smaller number than were unfortunately collateral damage during our attacks. The Iranians are largely secular Islamic, a religion that was forced upon them but they were able to maintain their own non-Arabic language, Farci. If only you were to read the comments of Iranian expats living in other countries, they, by and large, support the efforts to cleanse the country from these lunatics that have been in charge for almost 50 years. The so-called agreement that our weak-kneed president Obama and that phony Kerry had concocted never had any compulsory provisions and was laughed at from the start by the Iranians. On a personal note, your association with a generously funded, possibly questionable employment development activity, is likely coming to light, soon to be exposed by J.D. Vance's efforts to clean up the waste and fraud in this State. You could have an ulterior motive that you may need to confess to.
Dirk, on the personal note, what are on earth are you talking about and what does it have to do with the war on Iran?
I worked part time for eight years for Jobtrain in Menlo Park, which trains underserved and undereducated people for entry level jobs in healthcare, construction, IT, and culinary, all at no cost to the student. Jobtrain graduates 600 students a year and gets nearly 90% immediate employment at pay to the graduates nearly twice the CA minimum wage. Generously funded? Not hardly as it is now losing nearly $1M a year in donations due to Trump's policies and cost me my job. Questionable employment development? Not hardly, if you ask the employers when nearly 90% of the students are still on the job a year later. Waste and fraud? The only waste and fraud is your commentary on me personally. Jobtrain does more good for humanity every day than either of us could likely do in a lifetime.
Mullah Rel - thank you for your disdain for Trump comments. You imply that when Biden was in hiding, that Iran did nothing to advance their desires to destroy the USA and enrich uranium and build nuclear weapons which is nonsense. "Since April 2021, Iran has stockpiled uranium enriched to 60% of the fissionable U-235 isotope. Enrichment to that level already accomplishes over 90% of the work needed to bring natural uranium to weapon-grade." Joe & Obama were okay with this progress, Trump was not and said NO. And if Iran were to have hit the USA with a nuclear missile, you would most likely be at the front of the line blaming Trump
Sorry, CiB, but you are incorrect in your opinions. When Iran signed the JCPOA agreement, they agreed to discontinue their uranium enrichment and nuclear bomb development. They agreed to enrich their existing uranium to only 3.6% - enough for clean energy uses. They agreed to allow third party physicists to verify their stockpiles for the next 15 years. All who followed their progress said Iran was living up to its promises when Trump tore up the agreement in the 11th year. Even if you agree with Trump's action in unilaterally dropping the plan, where is its replacement, or hint of one? Now Trump is trying to get to a cease fire with an agreement less beneficial than the one he tore up. Pick any aspect of this war on Iran and you will find the world is less safe and more costly than before Trump decided to pick a fight with no defined objective.
Do you read MAD magazine or grocery store tabloids to get your information? Good grief, it sounds like your on Iran's payroll... but if you are truly interested in the truth, and not misguided fantasies then click here. https://www.heritage.org/middle-east/commentary/trump-pulls-the-plug-defective-iran-nuclear-deal
Oh sure, CiB, use a Heritage Foundation reference which has as much credibility as Faux News. Here is a reference I used just doing a random Google search: https://armscontrolcenter.org/the-iran-deal-then-and-now/ Face it: Trump had no plan going in and now he has no plan coming out. Usual failure for him.
Mullah Rel - i’m sure you didn’t even read the link, because you’re not interested in the truth. You’re like a friend of mine, I asked him about Fox News, he said why would I read Fox News they are liars. He knows this even though he’s never listened or read what Fox News provides. The fact is you can’t find one story that’s not fake or false on FOX or Heritage, but I can find 100 stories on CNN that are lies and distorted . The reality is you support and love Iran more than the USA, you root for the enemy and support a terrorist country because your hate for Trump is your driving motivation to lie, distort and ignore facts. I guarantee you did not read the Heritage opinion, a factual and reasonable conclusive story regarding the Iran deal, because your TDS world would blow up and come crashing down.
Hilarious. Rel accuses CA Is Burning of using a biased reference and then Rel references a source from a biased leftist organization. A source which inherently carries baggage and credibility issues because they’re a left wing source. Not only that, this is the Rel who still tries to blame our (yes, our) great President Trump for the 1/6 riot which occurred due to Pelosi’s admitted dereliction of duty to protect the Capitol. If Rel perpetually lies about that then what else is he willing to lie about?
All of these comments reveal the TRUE source of our division in the United States. The real "threat to Democracy" is the utter collapse of mainstream media into simply leftist propaganda. All the major outlets held on to a semblance of neutrality until Trump emerged in 2015 as a real candidate. Since then, they have almost all abdicated their roles as purveyors of "news" and "truth", and they now serve at the hand of the Democrat party. Thus, educated and intelligent adults can no longer agree on what the truth is. For those of us that have lifted the veil and can see the propaganda being spun from every legacy outlet, we are very careful about the sources we trust. For those like "Rel" who either have not figured it out, or who do not want to figure it out, they find great satisfaction in the confirmation of their bias they can read after doing a "Google" search (90% left leaning sources), or reading the New York Times, Washington Post, SF Chronicle, CNN, ABC, CBS, the list is endless (SMDJ, I challenge you to be different). The massive left-leaning bias in "news" is the true source of all of our disagreements. Iran? We all have agreed for 50 years they are a threat. Immigration? We all have agreed for 20 years it is a massive issue. Safety? We all agree that not being mugged/robbed/assaulted is a good thing in a civilized society. Fraud/waste in government? No sane person defends it (until recently). Free speech? We all revere it (well, Biden Admin didn't). So the good news is that Rel, Terencey, Ca is Burning, we all would very likely be on exactly the same page if only the mainstream news was ethical and honest. Until then Del, you really need to add sources like Fox News, Michael Shellenberger, Megyn Kelly, Victor Davis Hanson, etc. to your diet so you can begin to lift the veil. You are being fooled and brainwashed. Yes, I know you will say the same to me. But, I can't help but see/hear/read all the opinions of the Left, it's in our faces constantly. But I also take the effort to digest other opinions. At least try a site like RealClearPolitics.com and read all the articles, not just the Left ones. It will be mind opening. Every single search engine is documented to be massively far Left, don't trust Google for anything but directions.
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Well said, Mr. Abramson. When folks whose emotions cloud their judgment and common sense are easily exposed as being hypocritical, it is in our best interests to ignore their outbursts. The best we can do is to guide them to the fountain of truth and hope they drink from it.
Scott, the money from the war on Iran is well spent? How lame. Tell us any objective, if there was one, was met. Regime change? - no. Iranian people rising up to take over their government? No and after we killed their civilians, decidedly not. Less nuclear capacity than before the strikes? - not well determined but likely not. Strait of Hormuz open? - no, but it was open prior to his war. Plus, Trump released the sanctions on Russia's oil supply, so his buddy Putin comes out a winner as well.
Obama and John Kerry has a written agreement from Iran whereby Iran agreed to not build any nuclear bombs. Trump tore up that agreement - probably because he had "a concept of a plan". This was a great diplomatic victory and agreement Trump tore up because it was done by Obana.
Bottom line: there is no way this war on Iran was worth any money we spent and are spending on it. This war is an abject failure, just like his presidency.
OK Rel - why not wait until we see the results in a few weeks. Your assessment is straight from the Iranian News Agency, so let's rely for a while on news that is provided by other sources. The Iranian regime killed up to 30,000 of their own citizens prior to our involvement, a much smaller number than were unfortunately collateral damage during our attacks. The Iranians are largely secular Islamic, a religion that was forced upon them but they were able to maintain their own non-Arabic language, Farci. If only you were to read the comments of Iranian expats living in other countries, they, by and large, support the efforts to cleanse the country from these lunatics that have been in charge for almost 50 years. The so-called agreement that our weak-kneed president Obama and that phony Kerry had concocted never had any compulsory provisions and was laughed at from the start by the Iranians. On a personal note, your association with a generously funded, possibly questionable employment development activity, is likely coming to light, soon to be exposed by J.D. Vance's efforts to clean up the waste and fraud in this State. You could have an ulterior motive that you may need to confess to.
Dirk, on the personal note, what are on earth are you talking about and what does it have to do with the war on Iran?
I worked part time for eight years for Jobtrain in Menlo Park, which trains underserved and undereducated people for entry level jobs in healthcare, construction, IT, and culinary, all at no cost to the student. Jobtrain graduates 600 students a year and gets nearly 90% immediate employment at pay to the graduates nearly twice the CA minimum wage. Generously funded? Not hardly as it is now losing nearly $1M a year in donations due to Trump's policies and cost me my job. Questionable employment development? Not hardly, if you ask the employers when nearly 90% of the students are still on the job a year later. Waste and fraud? The only waste and fraud is your commentary on me personally. Jobtrain does more good for humanity every day than either of us could likely do in a lifetime.
Mullah Rel - thank you for your disdain for Trump comments. You imply that when Biden was in hiding, that Iran did nothing to advance their desires to destroy the USA and enrich uranium and build nuclear weapons which is nonsense. "Since April 2021, Iran has stockpiled uranium enriched to 60% of the fissionable U-235 isotope. Enrichment to that level already accomplishes over 90% of the work needed to bring natural uranium to weapon-grade." Joe & Obama were okay with this progress, Trump was not and said NO. And if Iran were to have hit the USA with a nuclear missile, you would most likely be at the front of the line blaming Trump
Sorry, CiB, but you are incorrect in your opinions. When Iran signed the JCPOA agreement, they agreed to discontinue their uranium enrichment and nuclear bomb development. They agreed to enrich their existing uranium to only 3.6% - enough for clean energy uses. They agreed to allow third party physicists to verify their stockpiles for the next 15 years. All who followed their progress said Iran was living up to its promises when Trump tore up the agreement in the 11th year. Even if you agree with Trump's action in unilaterally dropping the plan, where is its replacement, or hint of one? Now Trump is trying to get to a cease fire with an agreement less beneficial than the one he tore up. Pick any aspect of this war on Iran and you will find the world is less safe and more costly than before Trump decided to pick a fight with no defined objective.
Do you read MAD magazine or grocery store tabloids to get your information? Good grief, it sounds like your on Iran's payroll... but if you are truly interested in the truth, and not misguided fantasies then click here. https://www.heritage.org/middle-east/commentary/trump-pulls-the-plug-defective-iran-nuclear-deal
Oh sure, CiB, use a Heritage Foundation reference which has as much credibility as Faux News. Here is a reference I used just doing a random Google search: https://armscontrolcenter.org/the-iran-deal-then-and-now/ Face it: Trump had no plan going in and now he has no plan coming out. Usual failure for him.
Mullah Rel - i’m sure you didn’t even read the link, because you’re not interested in the truth. You’re like a friend of mine, I asked him about Fox News, he said why would I read Fox News they are liars. He knows this even though he’s never listened or read what Fox News provides. The fact is you can’t find one story that’s not fake or false on FOX or Heritage, but I can find 100 stories on CNN that are lies and distorted . The reality is you support and love Iran more than the USA, you root for the enemy and support a terrorist country because your hate for Trump is your driving motivation to lie, distort and ignore facts. I guarantee you did not read the Heritage opinion, a factual and reasonable conclusive story regarding the Iran deal, because your TDS world would blow up and come crashing down.
Hilarious. Rel accuses CA Is Burning of using a biased reference and then Rel references a source from a biased leftist organization. A source which inherently carries baggage and credibility issues because they’re a left wing source. Not only that, this is the Rel who still tries to blame our (yes, our) great President Trump for the 1/6 riot which occurred due to Pelosi’s admitted dereliction of duty to protect the Capitol. If Rel perpetually lies about that then what else is he willing to lie about?
All of these comments reveal the TRUE source of our division in the United States. The real "threat to Democracy" is the utter collapse of mainstream media into simply leftist propaganda. All the major outlets held on to a semblance of neutrality until Trump emerged in 2015 as a real candidate. Since then, they have almost all abdicated their roles as purveyors of "news" and "truth", and they now serve at the hand of the Democrat party. Thus, educated and intelligent adults can no longer agree on what the truth is. For those of us that have lifted the veil and can see the propaganda being spun from every legacy outlet, we are very careful about the sources we trust. For those like "Rel" who either have not figured it out, or who do not want to figure it out, they find great satisfaction in the confirmation of their bias they can read after doing a "Google" search (90% left leaning sources), or reading the New York Times, Washington Post, SF Chronicle, CNN, ABC, CBS, the list is endless (SMDJ, I challenge you to be different). The massive left-leaning bias in "news" is the true source of all of our disagreements. Iran? We all have agreed for 50 years they are a threat. Immigration? We all have agreed for 20 years it is a massive issue. Safety? We all agree that not being mugged/robbed/assaulted is a good thing in a civilized society. Fraud/waste in government? No sane person defends it (until recently). Free speech? We all revere it (well, Biden Admin didn't). So the good news is that Rel, Terencey, Ca is Burning, we all would very likely be on exactly the same page if only the mainstream news was ethical and honest. Until then Del, you really need to add sources like Fox News, Michael Shellenberger, Megyn Kelly, Victor Davis Hanson, etc. to your diet so you can begin to lift the veil. You are being fooled and brainwashed. Yes, I know you will say the same to me. But, I can't help but see/hear/read all the opinions of the Left, it's in our faces constantly. But I also take the effort to digest other opinions. At least try a site like RealClearPolitics.com and read all the articles, not just the Left ones. It will be mind opening. Every single search engine is documented to be massively far Left, don't trust Google for anything but directions.
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